From: David Cantrell Date: 18:00 on 13 Apr 2007 Subject: Firefox popup blocker This is not your usual Firefox popup blocker hate. Oh no, it is MORE HATEFUL. Firefox just did it's usual trick of letting a fucking popup annoy me, but this time it also took the time to tell me that it had blocked a popup. Grrrr.
From: Stephen Deken Date: 21:05 on 13 Apr 2007 Subject: Re: Firefox popup blocker On 4/13/07, David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote: > Firefox just did it's usual trick of letting a fucking popup annoy me, > but this time it also took the time to tell me that it had blocked a > popup. Grrrr. Hate the game, not the player. Lots of sites try multiple methods of popping up advertisements, some of which Fx blocks. If Fx blocks one and another gets through right after, that's what you'll see.
From: David Cantrell Date: 00:38 on 14 Apr 2007 Subject: Re: Firefox popup blocker On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:05:31PM -0500, Stephen Deken wrote: > On 4/13/07, David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote: > >Firefox just did it's usual trick of letting a fucking popup annoy me, > >but this time it also took the time to tell me that it had blocked a > >popup. Grrrr. > Hate the game, not the player. Lots of sites try multiple methods of > popping up advertisements, some of which Fx blocks. If Fx blocks one > and another gets through right after, that's what you'll see. Bzzzt, wrong That Firefox will *ever* open another window without my explicit instruction to do so is a bug. So I have good reason to hate both.
From: A. Pagaltzis Date: 01:10 on 14 Apr 2007 Subject: Re: Firefox popup blocker * David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> [2007-04-14 01:45]: > That Firefox will *ever* open another window without my > explicit instruction to do so is a bug. So I have good reason > to hate both. The most, uh, "successful" ad popups work via Flash, but the same could conceivably be done using any other plugin. In that case, the browser really cannot know if the plugin is opening a window on your behalf or arbitrarily. The answer to that is to use stuff like FlashBlock which prevents Flash content from playing back without your explicit request. The other form of popups that still get through the blocker for me are those where the site has an onclick handler for the whole document, so the first time you click anything it also pops up a window. Same story: no way for the browser to tell whether the user was actually asking for the window. The only way to win would be not to play -- remove the ability for dynamic content to programmatically open new windows all together. Except that that's no way to win, either: the response is layer ads, where the ad is shown as a faux window inside the page that covers up the content, inserted via DHTML. And ever on. Regardless of what you do, the brainwashers will adapt to it. This is not a software hate. Regards,
From: Scott Francis
Date: 19:00 on 18 Apr 2007
Subject: Re: Firefox popup blocker
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:10:34AM +0200, pagaltzis@xxx.xx said:
> * David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> [2007-04-14 01:45]:
> > That Firefox will *ever* open another window without my
> > explicit instruction to do so is a bug. So I have good reason
> > to hate both.
>=20
> The most, uh, "successful" ad popups work via Flash, but the same
> could conceivably be done using any other plugin. In that case,
> the browser really cannot know if the plugin is opening a window
> on your behalf or arbitrarily. The answer to that is to use stuff
> like FlashBlock which prevents Flash content from playing back
> without your explicit request.
[snip]
NoScript FTW. The number of sites that actually _need_ javascript
in order to display whatever it is I'm interested in is a relatively
small (and fairly constant) number.
Active content is the source of pretty much 100% of browser annoyances
and security issues, and is largely unnecessary. Combine NoScript
with Adblock and FiltersetUpdater.G and you're all set.
(naturally, don't use MSIE and don't run Windows. :))
--=20
Scott Francis | darkuncle(at)darkuncle(dot)net | 0x5537F527
Less and less is done
until non-action is achieved
when nothing is done, nothing is left undone.
-- the Tao of Sysadmin
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From: Abigail Date: 16:46 on 14 Apr 2007 Subject: Re: Firefox popup blocker --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:05:31PM -0500, Stephen Deken wrote: > On 4/13/07, David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote: > >Firefox just did it's usual trick of letting a fucking popup annoy me, > >but this time it also took the time to tell me that it had blocked a > >popup. Grrrr. >=20 > Hate the game, not the player. Lots of sites try multiple methods of > popping up advertisements, some of which Fx blocks. If Fx blocks one > and another gets through right after, that's what you'll see. No. I've have the same problem with Firefox. Firefox *NEVER EVER* tells me it has blocked a popup, unless there is a popup. And it *ALWAYS* tells me it has blocked a popup if there is a popup. My conclusion from that is that Firefox always fails to block a popup, while knowing there is one. Abigail --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGIPdeBOh7Ggo6rasRAlh7AJ4+SdjhJbaJ/ogZ5lGayTAhP6ypXwCgmyp7 H6hXNnOtKxXzfv3tvZ/qxqA= =f5Qj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62--
From: Robert Rothenberg Date: 10:52 on 19 Apr 2007 Subject: Re: Firefox popup blocker I've not had that problem with Firefox, but I use NoScript, which does a pretty good job at keeping a lot of hateful things from ever running on my computer. On 14/04/07 16:46 Abigail wrote: > I've have the same problem with Firefox. > > > Firefox *NEVER EVER* tells me it has blocked a popup, unless there is > a popup. And it *ALWAYS* tells me it has blocked a popup if there is > a popup. > > My conclusion from that is that Firefox always fails to block a popup, > while knowing there is one.
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