drhyde hates software: stupid dependencies

• From: David Cantrell
  Date: 15:06 on 18 Oct 2005
  Subject: stupid dependencies
  
  For reasons I'm not going to go in to, I need to install some of that
  trendy "Instant Messageing" software, specifically gaim.  There is a
  Debian package of it.  So I apt-get install gaim:
  
  $ sudo apt-get install gaim
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree... Done
  The following extra packages will be installed:
    gaim-data gcc-4.0-base libao2 libaspell15 libaspell15c2 libglib2.0-0
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    libglib2.0-dev libgtkspell0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common
    libpango1.0-dev libstartup-notification0 libstdc++6 libxss1
  
  WTF, over?
  
  
  

• From: Matthew Garrett
  Date: 15:10 on 18 Oct 2005
  Subject: Re: stupid dependencies
  
  On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:06:19PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
  > $ sudo apt-get install gaim
  > Reading package lists... Done
  > Building dependency tree... Done
  > The following extra packages will be installed:
  >   gaim-data gcc-4.0-base libao2 libaspell15 libaspell15c2 libglib2.0-0
  >             ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  >   libglib2.0-dev libgtkspell0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common
  >   libpango1.0-dev libstartup-notification0 libstdc++6 libxss1
  >
  > WTF, over?
  
  That's the dependency chain. Something is pulling in a newer libstdc++6, 
  which requires a newer gcc-4.0-base (though why, I've no idea - there's 
  not actually anything in the gcc-*-base packages nowadays)
  
  
  

• From: Martin Ebourne
  Date: 15:10 on 18 Oct 2005
  Subject: Re: stupid dependencies
  
  David Cantrell <david@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> wrote:
  > $ sudo apt-get install gaim
  > Reading package lists... Done
  > Building dependency tree... Done
  > The following extra packages will be installed:
  >  gaim-data gcc-4.0-base libao2 libaspell15 libaspell15c2 libglib2.0-0
  >            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  >  libglib2.0-dev libgtkspell0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common
  >  libpango1.0-dev libstartup-notification0 libstdc++6 libxss1
  >
  > WTF, over?
  
  Presumably this is the first gcc-4 compiled program you are installing.
  
  The gcc runtime is provided as a shared library (libgcc_s, for good 
  reasons), and any gcc built program will need that.
  
  Presumably also gcc-4.0-base contains this shared runtime library. 
  Hopefully it doesn't contain much else or that's hate for the packager.
  
  For instance, /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 on FC4 is provided by the libgcc 
  package, which contains only these files:
  
  /lib/libgcc_s-4.0.1-20050727.so.1
  /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
  /usr/sbin/libgcc_post_upgrade
  /usr/share/doc/libgcc-4.0.1
  /usr/share/doc/libgcc-4.0.1/COPYING.LIB
  
  Cheers,
  
  Martin.
  
  

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